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What about the Panchen Lama?

This topic has been un-highlight by TRuth-home at 2-7-2008 19:41.
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Original posted by angoose at 21-4-2008 14:18

Any proof of this?
...so that you can bring in western journalists and make big bucks our of it?
Why not you go and find out yourself?

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Kukkaukkonen, you're off by one Panchen Lama, the one I am speaking of is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedhun_Choekyi_Nyima

Sorry about any misunderstanding.

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Original posted by Jigong at 21-4-2008 16:57

...so that you can bring in western journalists and make big bucks our of it?
Why not you go and find out yourself?
No, there is just no reasonable proof of what you claim.

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Some of my oppinion

angoose    Thank you for your information. I have put the article you found from Wikipedia below, so people can easier have a discussion.

              From my point of view, to fairly say, I do not think any government (except USA) in the world will let a CIA surported 6 years old child as a political tool to againest their country. If you know the background about Tibet and CIA.

              So called 'youngest political prisoner in the world' is called by Dalai Lama and BBC. Maybe before they report the Tibet riot, I will fully believe what they have said. But you know nowadays their turth faces has showed. From the article you found in Wikipedia, can know that they have been doing this for a long time. I am very respect for your kindness care about the child, I personaly believe that Chinese government would not do any harm to him, since he did not do anything wrong from Dalai Lama's order yet, before he went back live in a normal life again.

Selection of the 11th Panchen Lama http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedhun_Choekyi_Nyima

Following the death of the 10th Panchen Lama in 1989, the search for his reincarnation quickly became mired in bureaucracy and controversy. Chadrel Rinpoche, the head of the search committee, was able to secretly communicate with the Dalai Lama. However, after the Dalai Lama announced Gedhun Choekyi Nyima as the new Panchen Lama, Chinese authorities arrested Chadrel Rinpoche, who was replaced with Sengchen Lobsang Gyaltsen. Sengchen had been a political opponent of both the Dalai Lama and the previous Panchen Lama. The new search committee ignored the Dalai Lama's May 14 announcement and instead chose from a list of finalists; the list excluded Gedhun Choekyi Nyima. In selecting a name, lots were drawn from the Golden Urn, a tradition introduced in 1793.Gyancain Norbu was announced as the search committee's choice on November 11, 1995.

The whereabouts of Gedhun Choekyi Nyima are unknown. The Government of Tibet in Exile claims that he and his family continue to be political prisoners, and has termed him the "youngest political prisoner in the world". According to Chinese government claims, he is attending school and leading a normal life somewhere in China.[citation needed] This cannot be verified by outside sources as no credible evidence has been provided to confirm or deny these claims.[citation needed] The reason this evidence has been withheld, according to statements by Chinese authorities, is that his whereabouts are kept undisclosed to protect him; although there has been no mention at all from what, or whom, he must be protected. This general lack of verifiable information has led many concerned people to fear he has been harmed or otherwise disposed of due to the damage he might someday cause by allowing Tibetans to choose their own leaders without Chinese intervention.

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Original posted by angoose at 21-4-2008 04:46

But the Panchen Lama chosen by the government has not been approved by the Dalai Lama, is his approval not required as well?

Not to mention I'm unsure about the validity of that website, its hard ...
As far as I know, The choosing of Panchan Lama and Dalai Lama doesn't need the approval of each other. Panchan and Dalai are two collateral systems.

Besides, if you don't believe the chinese people (or even the westerners who have lived in China) at all, why do you come here and ask us? You can ask your western media, I think you can get satisfying answer from them, for example, the photos and remark shown on the homepage of this website.

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Original posted by angoose at 22-4-2008 10:29

No, there is just no reasonable proof of what you claim.
Reasonable, yes. Proof, can't give you. Otherwise you and your fellow ugly journalists of the  western media will fabricate all sorts of stories to endanger the life of the boy and the family!

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the chinese gov understands that among tibetans who follow dalai lama are still of quite a number, thus if the missed "boy" were not "hidden", let's say publicly living in beijing, than what would be the result?

Tibetan won't simply sit in lhasa and watch, there would be more chaos.

thus since Dalai Lama did wrongfully first, by naming another boy in purpose of slanding China, there is no choice but doing so.

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To angoose,

You refer the current Panchen Lama a  "puppet"  because he is approved by Chinese central government,  I would like to hear how you name the Dalai Lama who has been in CIA payroll for years ?

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To angoose ,   " No, there is just no reasonable proof of what you claim."

I am getting a bit confused with western peace loving style.  Iraq people are  killed day by day , how many now , millions of them ?  This much worse human rights violence seems not serious enough for making the western media headlines, and getting the western society attention to do something  immediately.     

Chinese government maintain the order by law in its own administration scope. What's wrong with this ?
If  investigation is a must  by UN for any such government action,  let's first  call for international investigations on  what French government, US government did  on Anti-riots in Paris, and in US  a few years ago.

Many people have already pointed out this Tibet riot is a polt.  It is !

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