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Pictures in China, but not yet in the West (3)--Lhasa

This topic has been un-highlight by kukkaukkonen at 28-4-2008 13:23.

Pictures in China, but not yet in the West (3)--Lhasa


Here is also an policemen who is blamed for "bloody crackdown on peaceful demonstration" by western politicians and media. It is a bloody event but it is not a crackdown on on peaceful demonstration. The western media must feel happy to see more police and innocent civilians being killed by those "peaceful demonstrators" that they support. They call it fighting for freedom, but they forgot to mention it is a "freedom of murdering".


These are the lamas that were referred to as "peaceful protesters" by the major stream of western media. They are being the police who are hiding behind the shield. The western media and politicians insist on the latter have undertaken bloody crackdown.


After peaceful demonstrations by the Lamas, here is another police with blood, not on his hand, but on his face. The western media never show this kind of pictures to their audience, and they keep on saying it is Chinese but not westerners who are brainwashed by unilateral information.


The only pictures, which the western media used to make their audience believe their bloody crackdown theory, are something like this, i.e. the Nepal police are cracking down the Tibetan protesters. These media expert even don't know Nepal and China are different countries, but they believe they know what is happening and what is best for Tibetan people better than anyone else.

CNN also use this kind of pictures about Nepal police to illustrate so-called bloody crackdown in China.  Except this kind a picture together with some pictures of soldiers with rifles and armored trucks that does not show any blood at all, their only evidence for the "bloody crackdown" is the announcement from "Tibet government-in-exile" who organized the protest.


In the above picture, a policeman was killed on a burned truck. This is something western media never have shown to their audience, so that they can keep blood crackdown theory beyond any doubt. they can not block this kind of pictures to Chinese, so they tell the rest of the world Chinese are brainwashed and their narrow mind can not think independently. In fact many Chinese, at least most of internet users, indeed reach the report from Western media. However, they never see any of their pictures that support their bloody-crackdown-on-peaceful-demonstration theory. The only thing Chinese can see is they repeatedly tell the audience that so-call bloody crackdown, with picture of Nepal police, story from Dalai Lama's crews or all kind of protesting from everywhere in the world. In their video Chinese can see tens or hundreds of protesting Tibetans, loyal to Dalai Lama, braying with tears, "Stop killing Tibetans", with evidence of Nepal police presented.  When this kind of slogans repeat more than thousands times, they really looks like truth and could touch the heart for those who don't see the pictures from China, but not yet in the West. However, Chinese can see the bloody video and pictures in which murdering police and innocent civilians in Lhasa. To whom should Chinese believe?

As a statistics of my investigation, in only less than 2% of report the violence could also be shown in western media. This kind of report are usually from live report from the western journalist who witness what is happening, before the report can be edited by their boss. Whenever major western media have chance to edit, they either hide the footage in which the mobs are trying to kill civilians, or they interpret the violence as "years of angers and hatred caused by bloody oppression of Chinese. The only evidence for the theory of "bloody oppression" are those story from Free-Tibet-Movement. The western media never prove how many ethnic Tibetans that the movement can represent for. Also the western media never mention the movement have been paid by CIA for nearly 50 years.

There are only less than 500 ethnic Tibetans, among 500 thousands in Lhasa, who were engaged in the violence. Hollywood movies often employed more temporary actors than this number for much longer than one day. However western media present 500 mobs as if they represent the entire ethnic Tibetan populations. Chinese media reported the arrested mobs were paid for undertaking violence. For most Chinese, it is a reason to suspect that the so-call angers and hatred are artificially made with money for political purpose from some agency in some western countries, perhaps more precisely, CIA and some foundations in Germany. The violence are nothing more than a drama played by employed actors, some killed civilians as tools in their show.

The major western media also present the riot in a way that the violence seems to be spontaneous and unorganized, in order to support their hatred-caused-by-oppression theory. They presented the questions raised by western journalist to Chinese authority that what the evidence is to prove the violence are organized. They did not present the answers, so that the blame seems to be baseless. However, there are tens reports in China about how the violence are organized. Guerrilla tactic are used during the violence. The lamas announced their protest to attract all the police to watch them, meanwhile the mobs started their murdering and burning in other place that police can not see. Some Han-Chinese with friends of ethnic Tibetans were informed in advance so that hide during that day, which indicates someone know the violence at least several days before. Before the violence, shops that are belongs to ethnic Tibetans are marked so that these ethnic Tibetans were able avoid the violence from the mobs who don't know them personally. There are also reports that many ethnic Tibetans were threatened forced to joined the violence at least in Sichuan, and some of them stealthily bugged out from the mass that marching to the place for violence. There are no way this kind to actions are spontaneous and unorganized by ordinary people.

The major western media also describe Dalai Lama always adopts peaceful, rational and nonviolent approach for protest in their effort for democracy and freedom of Tibet. However, let's see what their definition is for their nonviolence?

In a telephone interview with staffer of Radio France International, Dawa Tsering, the spokesman of Dalai Lama and the China Affairs officer of The Tibetan government-in-exile were asked by the following question:

"The Chinese authority repeatedly interrogates non-violence standpoint of the Dalai Lama with the following question: If Dalai Lama really adopts non-violence approach as he claimed, why has he never blamed the cruel crimes that ethnic Tibetans murdered the Han-Chinese in Tibet in March 14th?

Here is the reply from Mr. Dawa Tsering:

"First, I must make it clear that the Tibetans were non-violent all over the procedure. From the Tibetan point of view, violence is referring to slaying human life. From the footage it can be seen that the Han-Chinese were beaten, but it is only beating, but not slaying their lives. The Han Chinese were free to flee away from the fighting, so that it is only an assault, but not slaying their lives.

Therefore those who were killed died by accident. From the reports provided by the Chinese Communists authority, it can be seen very clearly that, when the Tibetans were smashing the door, all those (Chinese) went to the upstairs for hiding themselves. When the Tibetan ignited the fire, they did not escape, but were still hiding. The result is that they were burned to death by accident.

Those (Tibetans), who ignited and set fire, simply did not know there were Han Chinese hiding upstairs. So those who were burnt to death included not only Han Chinese, but Tibetans as well. Therefore, all of these incidents are just accident, but not massacre."
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This ethnic Tibetan doctor was hewed with knives because he was trying tosave the life of a 6-year old ethnic Han child at death's door. For Dalai Lama and his spokesman.this is not yet a slaying so that it must be a part of their "nonviolent protest"


After assault, the left ear of this innocent civilian was sliced off by knives and his right eye was beaten to blind in their “non-violent protest” referred to by the spokesman.


The 20 years old daughter of Mr. Liu was burnt to death in their own home and his wife and himself was severely injured.

The spokesman refers to it as an accident but not violence.


The spokesman tries to convince people that this civilian was free to flee away in their non-violent protest


The old civilian was facing to the so-called nonviolent protest by thespokesman. The swords were hold in the hands of those who “promote freedom”.


Dalai Lama won the Nobel peace prize for a similar riot in Lhasa in 1989, which was organized by him.

In his acceptance speech, He said "I believe the prize is a recognition of the true values of altruism, love, compassion and nonviolence which I try to practice;"


However his spokesman added “Beating is nonviolent”. There is no doubt that more Chinese will lose their beloved family members with tears for his future “nonviolent” protest. So Dalai Lama might win the peace prize another time for it.
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Look at Dalai, his face so evil.

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This is Dalai's so-called peaceful demonstration. The western media are blind to the civilians and policemen who are being injured or even killed by Dalai Lama and his followers,  we should try our best to tell the world the truth

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Western media refuse to acknowledge the victims of Lhasa riot

Haven't seen this photo either. 5 shop girls were torched alive by rioters, oldest 24(Yang Dongmei, right ), yongest 19(Chen Jia, left):



I usually make a point to not fuss over Xinhua, but this one tugged on me... reminded me of the memorial outside the firehouses in NYC after 9/11.

For more context of who these 5 shop girls are, here's an IHT report:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/28/asia/tibet.php

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Pictures lack context. There are dozens of things that could have caused those injuries thus images are not very useful to the media.

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violence is no excuse

Just because some are violent, doesn't mean all Tibetans can be denied the right to self-determination.

The Irish independence movement formed a terrorist organization, the IRA, and killed about 1800 people.  But because Irish people wanted self-determination,  now the Republic of Ireland is an independent country. And in Northern Ireland
Sinn Fein, the political party that wants to free Northern Ireland from English rule, is allowed to operate freely.

Are you telling me Britian should not have let the Irish have independence because some of them used violence? Do you think Palestinians should not get their own country because some of them use violence?

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You just justified crack down

The British also cracked down on the IRA, and killled several hundred thousand Irish. So you are okay with that too I supposed.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, taking your line of argument.

Also, the Chinese are not pouring money into Northern-Ireland republicanism, Native American Independence, fostering violence and unrest to weaken others sovereignty like we are doing.

The Native American were violent because they had the right to self-determination? Boohoohoo, and the whiteman cracked down on them - today Native Americans can't get their land back. I guess you are saying if the crack-down is successful, then it's okay to keep the land.

Right? Please don't let your ignorance get in the way of the complexity of the case, for us or the Chinese.

[ Last edited by charlesliu at 20-4-2008 02:29 ]

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Original posted by charlesliu at 20-4-2008 02:25
The British also cracked down on the IRA, and killled several hundred thousand Irish. So you are okay with that too I supposed.
Um no. On all sides total death toll in Irish War of Independence was under 2000. Given Irelands population hundreds of thousands of deaths would be quite noticable.

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The Northern Irish conflict goes back to 17th century. The IRA is just a tiny part of the hisotry. Again please don't let your ignorance get in the way:

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/northireland1.html

Again, following your "violence is okay" logic, if crackdown wins the Chinese get to keep their land? What if the Chinese return the favor and started supporting Native American Independence? Should we give the land we stole back to the Native Ameicans, because the "Chinese CIA" promoted violence among Native Americans?

As far as I know the Chinee has not done what we are doing to them.

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