Why not to talk with the Dalai Lama.
The west's repeated call for talks with the Dalai lama do seem reasonable. However, like Burma's Aung San Suu Kyi, the Dalai lama is little better than a proxy spearhead for a multitude of interest groups determined to establish an influential presence in Burma and/or China as a means to reinforce particular ideologies in the west. If this were to be successful, it would create a never ending dependence on the west, and it would also enslave the citizens of the west because of the need to sacrifice their property and earnings to fund the necessary interventions as a means to control the impact of the never ending conflicts that would arise.Given that the Dalai Lama does not represent a terrorist organisation similar to the Hamas and Hezbollah that Israel has to contend with, it is possible that the Dalai Lama and his followers could be prevailed upon to sign a declaration and appropriate contract of conduct with the Chinese authorities. Even so--and as per the above--since the Dalai Lama's influence is very limited in Tibet, such agreements with the Dalai Lama and his followers could usher in a never ending flood of demands from other malcontents already active within China. A particularly prominent example is Falun Gong/Falun Dafa led by spiritual leader Li Hongzhi who is resident in New York, and where their activities are a becoming a serious concern to US authorities.
Unlike before 1951, the Dalai Lama and his followers are not limited to Potola Palace. So, with a world stage upon which to operate at others' expense, he and his followers should be more than content. Globalisation in action. The best way is to wait until Dalai's death. After that, every problem is much easier to be solved. The death of the Dalai Lama would simply call an end to the reign of the present incumbent of the title, another person would rapidly take over. In any case, there is more to worry about than the Dalai Lama, present or future. peterboyd, would you like to talk with an cheat, a lie man?
and deep question:
Could you find What DALAI really want to do about Tibet? Can you believe there are many people really take care of CHINA?! And they want chinese well ?
Please see this topic:
[url]http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/en/thread-193-1-1.html[/url]
The best way is to wait until Dalai's death?No,need.He should die!
The best way is to wait until Dalai's death?No,need that.
He should die!
That's all chinese people's mind! why GWB,didt talke down Bin Laden, help turn in himself ?
Bin Laden was support by CIA in USA,they were friends,partners,familay, So politics is NOT TRUE or WRONG, is BELIEVE or NOT
Clarification, I hope :-)
The thread was not a question. It is about why it is dangerous for China and the West for talks to be held with the Dalai Lama. Perhaps the thread should have been titled: 'Why talks with the Dalai lama are dangerous for China and the West'. Dangerous?:loveliness: for China? China would be afraid of him? afraid of a cheat? a lie man? funny In sovereignty, There is NOTHING that can be Dangerous for us!The people Who want to split china is NOT ONLY enemy to China government,BUT ALSO to all the people in CHINA! The dangerous is NOT to CHINA, BUT to DALAI in fact.because lie,fake,selfish desire around him.
he DO NOT really want tibet people to be nice. He want to be a king in Tibet.And exploit the people!
You may answer me "why you can say him this?"
Ok, let us think one problem.If a man want tibet ppl live happily, what should he feel when he see the great change in Tibet today? I think he must praise this. But what LALAI say?
And what western think about serf? Serf is GOOD?democratic? and can bring human rights? The really dangerous thing is western stereotype on china and the fund support behind Dalai Lama.
Sovereignty.
Yes, wearechinese. A split China is also a danger to the west for the reasons mentioned in the thread. And China's sovereignty cannot be guaranteed by relying on its military and/or its police force in the face of discontent within China. No sovereign state has ever been able to achieve this for any length of time. This is fact. "Why not talk to Dalai?"Few days ago, I would have said, "Why not? He seems like a good fellow."
But after having read more on the subject, my consdiered answer now is "Why bother to talk to a puppet controlled by CIA."
China, Stand your ground, and don't imperialism forces try to spilt an strategic piece of land from you, and try to slow your progress of improving the livelihood of your people, inlcuding the Tibetans. Dalai lama to Chinese people like Bin Laden to American!!!
So why US not to talk with Laden???
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Why not talk to him?I think it would a political suicide for the Ruling Party if they do!
After the violent and organised global insults on the country and its Chinese people,
I think, as suggested by a number of readers; best "let the sleeping dog lay!". He can opt for a peaceful death.
[[i] Last edited by Andy at 13-4-2008 07:23 [/i]] DALAI lama is a CIA agent.
CIA couldnt permit him come bach to china. Because the lalai know too much secret of CIA We are not afraid of anything at all!! I strongly with speakers talking on this subject, but I do not think DaLai, Lams's death can provide a favorable situation for the Chinese-not only the government, but all the Chinese to solve the problem.
Since he dead, the right of choose a new leader belong to whom. If the so called exile government grab this right, it is unimaginable how the situtation will be, while if the central government can not resolve this problem properly, definitely thousand of Zang people's anger and malcontent will be aroused. I believe that is not what all Chinese to see.
So maybe a talk with the spiritual leader-on condition that he relinquish his separation activities, is a reasonale and sensible to address with the issue. [quote]Original posted by [i]peterboyd[/i] at 13-4-2008 00:10 [url=http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/en/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=836&ptid=188][img]http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/en/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Yes, wearechinese. A split China is also a danger to the west for the reasons mentioned in the thread. And China's sovereignty cannot be guaranteed by relying on its military and/or its police force i ... [/quote]
some of what you say may be right , If you really care about human rights,politics. what do you think about USA, the country invade IRAQ on the reason -- Weapons of Mass Destruction. All the world that include bush himself believe that reason is fake! BUT do USA stop? NO. Why? human rights, politics? Why UK,australia,france,and many other western country help USA although this is NOT a justicial war!
so we believe human rights politics are just "tool", some things are more important than these. POWER
If you have POWER,you can say which is right or not,And don't care about if this is really right.
DALAI is tool,fa-lun-gong is tool,and many other things anti-china are only tools used to stop CHINA.
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